Abby Markham was caring for a patient who needed a below the knee amputation but was refusing. She took the time to really talk to him and his wife regarding their fears. She felt if the patient and his spouse met a patient who had had an amputation and lived a full life, his mind might be changed. She called an agency and asked if they had a patient who had a BKA that would be open to talking with this patient. They sent an RN who had a BKA. She came and talked to our patient who was then given hope for a full life. The patient agreed to amputation which will likely save his life.